Thank you for your hard work and diligence! As a survivor myself, I really appreciate that you understand how difficult it is to come forward AND how many people either don’t remember things properly or flat out lie due to their trauma. I’ve helped many trafficking survivors in my family and they often say things they 100% believe, but just aren’t true. It’s not intentional. It’s a reaction from such severe trauma. I believe Sascha is a survivor!! That doesn’t mean his testimony is entirely accurate. 🙏💗
It's what we're all told. Dismissing Any allegation of Sexual or Physical Abuse is a legacy of survivors never being believed for so long.
I listened to all the tapes. I originally found Sascha's story quite compelling. But the more he went on, specific stories and specific details seemed fishy.
Do I think Sacha is a Survivor? Plausibly.
But Sascha makes specific claims about certain specific people. Namely... THE GD PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, just because they might be a Survivor does not make their allegations against specific people true nor every story factual or prove that there aren't any allegations weren't FABRICATED.
And making that allegation against any other abuse victim would be WAY OUT OF LINE, we're talking about the President of the United States who is also an adjudicated Rapist, diagnosed Pathological Narcissist, sadistic Psychopath, pathological liar and Sadist who was twice impeached as president but nonetheless avoided punishment nor completion of trials of his dozens of felonies and then was reelected president with a LARGER number and percentage of the vote.
Why anyone would fabricate anything about this guy? I have NO IDEA.
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I just want to say at this point that I am a Survivor. I've only told this to a tiny handful of people. My abuser was my Grandfather. I haven't told people about this because my Grandfather physically and mentally abused my father until he left the house at 17. And to know he trusted HIS father with being around and able to abuse me would be DEVASTATING to him.
His abuse was short lived. At the time I was to young to understand what was happening. Only in hindsight did I recognize it as Sexual abuse. He hired a babysitter for me when I was EIGHT that in hindsight was likely a child prostitute he hired to test my sexuality. To engage in sex with me.
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I am also a FAN of Survivor, or at least WAS. The TV show, "Survivor." You know the #! show from the guy that brought you, I DON'T KNOW... THE APPRENTICE? The show that rehabbed Trump's image that convinced America that Trump was an amazingly successful Bazillionaire after we watched him fail over and over.
Julie K. Brown has huge amounts of privileged information on the survivors who have not agreed to let their stories be public. She said in 2019 when she was breaking the Epstein deal of 2008 in "The Miami Herald" that there was "no evidence" that Trump was involved in Epstein's crimes! Let that register in your brain and in your emotions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAlVNxnJd3Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0_vlaWPiOA
There should have been a dozen tough as bulldogs investigative reporters on this story with the Miami Herald, not a woman with just minimal backups. Steve Bannon said that the Epstein story was their greatest worry in the 2016 campaign! Let that register, a top reporter says there was no evidence of Trump's involvement according to her sources and research and one of the smart crafty and cunning lackeys says that it was their "greatest" worry!
There is no doubt that there were extensive child rape and molestations, which are the gravest of crimes, there were private investigators, their own lawyers, their families that were paid off, some were probably snuffed out like Epstein! In my town we have former Epstein handler Leslie Groff who has faced no justice though everyone close to this case know she is guilty as sin. Release all the Files!
Those looking for full and robust justice centered around the largest human trafficking cases in history should stay focused on the evidence as the entire US government has demanded with many politicians just being hypocritical on the issue, pretending and voting for the release of all records then fighting against that.
I think her point was he wasn't implicated in the testimonials from the survivors she had interviewed, which he wasn't. She was in no way implying he's in the clear. Katie Johnson's deposition is the most compelling.
I agree; too bad some wealthy person did not step up to the plate during Trump's run to thoroughly back her with lots of money and protection as the dark forces threaten every whistleblower with lawsuits and physical violence.
What you’re naming here is exactly the tension that gets lost in public conversations — believing survivors and taking trauma seriously doesn’t mean suspending discernment. Trauma can fracture memory without intent or malice, and careful documentation is what protects survivors from being dismissed wholesale while also protecting the record from collapse. Holding both truths at once is hard, but it’s the only way accountability survives long-term.
Yes!!! This!!! It’s not diminishing or invalidating anyone’s experience to recognize that memory, all memories good or bad, are flawed. That’s simple science. What we do as we move forward in supporting survivors is what matters.
I listened to Sascha’s tapes and my gut said, yes, this person was SA but the stories are really inaccurate. They became a little over the top. I’m relieved you applied your expertise to the records. I have family members who experienced SA and recall and memory blackouts are huge. Bits and pieces can be remembered but often the brain protects itself by forgetting or misplacing some memories. My family members this happened to are also “wrong rememberers” which may be ways the phyche also protects itself. I am not saying don’t believe SA accusations or accounts but non biased review is important.
I don’t believe any of these stupid stories. Killing babies and eating them, Hillary Clinton hunting women with rifles and shooting them. Come on people!
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What you’re sharing underscores something important: trauma doesn’t produce a single, uniform outcome. Some survivors retain precise memory; others experience fragmentation — both are real, and neither invalidates the harm endured. Truth-seeking that respects survivors while staying anchored to verification is what makes justice possible without erasing anyone’s experience.
I am a survivor of repeated trauma. And I do not remember every detail, so are you claiming that everybody who has experienced trauma has to have your exact experience for it to be true? If so, that’s gross and you should feel ashamed of yourself!
No — that isn’t what’s being said here, and it’s important to slow this down rather than let it turn into a hierarchy of suffering. Trauma doesn’t produce a single memory pattern, and nobody’s experience becomes less real because it looks different from someone else’s. The point being made throughout this thread is that survivors can be believed while also acknowledging that trauma affects memory in different ways, which is why careful, respectful truth-seeking matters — for everyone.
Thank you for clarifying your intention, and I hear you. The last thing I—or anyone here—wants is to create more pain between survivors. I reacted strongly because the wording of your first reply could be read as shaming those who don’t remember every detail, which is a harmful stereotype many of us face daily.
My point was never to challenge your experience, but to defend the validity of all experiences, including those where memory is fragmented or protected by the mind. If we’re truly supporting each other, then that support must include believing survivors without requiring perfect recall.
I respect your pain and appreciate you speaking up. I hope we can agree that the system too often fails survivors by demanding proof, and that our solidarity is strongest when we trust each other’s truths, however they are remembered.
WOW. The depravity, in total, is horrendous. Whether or not Sascha's 'story' or 'stories' are true/verifiable or not, it sounds similar to other victims in many ways. I am outraged, will continue to be outraged, and I will continue to hound my senators, congressperson, and others to PUBLICLY RELEASE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE. Also, may Ghislaine suffer explosive diarrhea every day until she dies in her spa-prison. Thank you, Ellie.
No memory is perfect or even completely reliable. We’ve all seen the shows depicting a crime in a class or lecture hall and all the witnesses stories conflict. But AGREE THERE WAS A CRIME!!! These stories are beyond grotesque! They exist as surely as rich privileged, soulless men high five each other as they commit crimes so dark it’s un fathomable to most humans. And that’s how they get away with it!!!!! As a woman and a mother all women are me and all children are mine!
She may as well talk to the media because her days are numbered anyway with three more years of Trump. Some enterprising individual is going to find a way to kill her if the money is big enough.
Know the stories of Trump being incontinant. Ask Noel castler. They used to have to change his diaper on the set of celebrity apprentice. It’s fact and it’s all out there. They even called the guy that did it wet wipes.
Why haven’t all the Epstein files been released, as mandated by the law? Why have the names of the apparent predators been redacted? Is this because Trump and his DOG are protecting his “friends”, as per MTG?
I recently listened to the Tucker Carlson/Ian Carroll show about the Epstein files. It surprised and shocked me that Carlson minimized Trump’s involvement, but there is very little direct evidence regarding Trump in the files, mainly hints at his involvement and horrible, disturbing tips which the FBI apparently never really investigated. We need to see the rest of the files. I suspect evidence about Trump has simply been moved there.
The outrage makes sense — what keeps coming through is how closely these accounts echo documented patterns of abuse and institutional silence, even when specific details still need verification. Staying focused on transparency, records, and public release is what turns that anger into pressure that can’t be dismissed, and continuing to bear witness together is part of what keeps this from being buried again.
We can neither confirm nor deny. And that is where this story lays. Period. It's neither verifiably true nor demonstrably untrue. The truth is very likely somewhere in between, as they say.
Thank you for your investigative work, Ellie. It's outstanding, as we've come to expect from you.
That’s a clear and responsible way to hold the line — acknowledging uncertainty without erasing harm or rushing to conclusions. Keeping the record honest, bounded by what can and can’t be verified, is exactly what gives investigative work its strength and keeps accountability conversations credible over time.
Your a dumb POS, hope you didn't strain all 5 of your brain cells to solve this mystery!! Golly Jeez Ellie, your the smartest person I know. U people make me sick. As a f'ing survivor your attitude and this shitty writer are the problem. "We can neither confirm nor deny. That is where the story lays. Period." Y'all deserve to be shamed for the rest of your lives starting now.
Hey Ellie, my goal is to reply to every one of your ass kissers until people see you for the mainstream media slop artist you are.
Ellie did the best she could with the resources she had access to. Basically she isnt saying he lied about DT but that she couldn't verify much of what he claimed. I think if Sascha wanted to enhance his believability he would (as he said he would) take a proper lie detector test and post the results for the public to see. Personally I believe most of his story but I cant or dont feel certain about some of the details. I hope MSN follows through with the interview of Sascha because Lisa V dropped the ball on him imo.
That balance is the point — empathy without distortion, truth without spectacle. Staying oriented to that North Star is what keeps the work credible when emotions run high and pressure pushes people toward absolutes.
Well done Ellie. This must be one of, if not the, hardest things you’ve ever written and investigated. It’s so difficult to believe that things like this go on in the world, but sadly and sickeningly they do.
It shows — taking on work like this means sitting with realities most people would rather look away from, and doing it carefully instead of sensationally. Staying with that discomfort, and keeping the record honest, is how truth actually serves people rather than exploiting them.
I am so conflicted. Their story is horrific and explicit. It reads as if it is some sort of S&M pornographic fan-fiction- all of the names we want to hear named are. We want to believe their story because the atrocities described are absolutely plausible in the persons accused. I must also ask, was this story so eagerly accepted because it was brought by a male? RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES NOW.
My thinking is people are talking about it more than the women is because even though these are old interviews..it was a reporter from Canada who released them. He has been telling his story for many years. Back in 2022 he tweeted on Andy Biggs twitter account that he remembers him as the person who almost beat him to death. The way are administration is keeping these files hush..hush…I think the women should do interviews in another country and let them release. I was also wondering if more people are obsessed with him because he doesn’t hold back from telling names(big names) Where as the girls are telling their details, but there also keeping in mind the legality of naming powerful men. Years of trauma just to be sued. When is Congress going to release names on house floor? They said they won’t get in trouble if they do it..verses the girls.
That Lise/Lisa individual is nowhere near being a reporter. Canada is actually quite a sophisticated country; we have multiple news organizations, both mainstream and independent, and serious, credible journalists. Sascha didn't reach out to any of them, and the only reasoning Sascha has ever given for why they contacted Lise is because "she's not from the US".
They are afraid of retribution. Why is this guy still alive if this is true.did he say anything about hiding or being in protective custody ? Why didn’t he go to one of the lawyers working for other survivors ? Has he contacted other survivors. I didn’t listen because I don’t believe it g won't until a reputable journalist releases it. And they won't touch it until it is thoroughly vetted lest they be sued big time if it's false.
The difference in how Sascha presents their story is the difference in many male victims. Of course they’re going all out and naming the big names. They have extreme loyalty to those that didn’t make it out. They’re a soldier with survivors guilt and they don’t care if they have to die to share what happened to those girls they told stories about. They might not know how to be the most credible victim but that’s what makes them even more believable to me.
Another sheep bahhhbahhhing. " I was also wondering if more people are obsessed with him because he doesn't hold back from telling names(big names)"
By golly George I think she's got it, F'ing Dahh!
Also how well did you even read her BS when you clearly messed up spreading her slop cause at every turn you refer to Sascha as him, he when they asked to be called them, they. Even your miracle worker from the heavens did that very basic thing.👏👏👏👏👍
Good gawd! Please do not throw divisive chit into the mix. Focus.
Sascha has accounts to tell and deserves to be heard as much as anyone. No one is negating anything similar from females, except Tя☭mp's fans.
Regarding how it “reads”…it doesn't. It's out there for listening and if you listen well, you don't hear scripted material or anything but sincerity from a traumatized, yet mentally strong person who is a survivor.
Sascha's voice, apologetic stammers, recollections mid thought, feelings for what happened to other kids who were there with him all come tumbling out.
It's not like anything said has been embellished to grab your interest. Just facts laid out…including acknowledging that some instances were fuzzy but it was the most important ones that needed to be recalled.
Don't forget: this all happened many years ago and the abuse started in the “family” home, from age 2. The physical abuse, including forced fighting, certainly took a toll on what was a very young body and brain.
Sadly, it was the only life he knew after such an early indoctrination into the nasty world of freaks who get off on harming kids in myriad ways.
Sascha is a survivor and he, himself, said he vowed he'd live to tell of his abuse (including his adoptive parents attemping to kill him), the snuff filming and puppy killing, the occurrences of having to fight grown men, and being begged to end a friend's life (at her own request) in order to stop a young woman's pain… anguish…torture at the hands of some very creepy yokels.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😊😊😊😊😊Thank you!! I actually found some common since on Ellie Leonards "findings". Ellie has made money off of this survivor story for months and she should be publicly shamed everyday for her both siding f'ing child rape and murder.
As a survivor I refuse to be nice to this slop artist, but if I was gonna be I would try to sound more like you. But I'm not so Fuck That Bitch!! 🙊🫣
Ellie Leonard! Go get a job your good at, maybe go teach MAGA how to read, then you can show them how to write alternative facts. I'm sure they will love you over there.
It may read that way from her writing but from their audio tape interview, the recounting sounds just about as close to myself when I was in therapy for dissociative identity disorder (this is a diagnosis I was extremely resistant to then zealous about healing), after escaping a white Christian nationalist/zionist cult family that didn’t commit the overt sexual acts but did commit a measurable amount of the sadistic ritualized physical and psychological abuse as they describe.
I’ve been able to recover, and I know there is some amount of story twisting that can happen with DID memories, but for me that experience was something I was able to flesh out in therapy and I was absolutely committed to not speak a detail I didn’t remember in full as if it’s true. Sascha has all the same behaviors. I believe them as vigorously as I believe my own fractured mind.
it sounds unbelievable, they have been made to sound not credible to anyone that hasn’t studied this kind of torture or experienced it themselves… but it lines up in every way with the psychological imprint it’s left on their story an how others are reacting to it. Maybe let’s say the most extreme detail about the tent stake didn’t happen, that could have been something they created to cope with the real abuse when they were 12. that doesn’t make them less credible.
R u a bot? You literally could have googled that and saved the humiliation of looking like a dumb ass. Oh wait, we are on Ellie Leonard's page, so carry on.👏👏👏 I'm sure it's fine.😭😭
You handled this story with such integrity without accusing anyone involved of any ill intent. It is important to believe survivors, but it’s also important to corroborate timelines and background information, especially in such a high profile situation. Being able to respect Sascha’s truth while also acknowledging the reality that there is currently no verifiable proof based on the information you were given, is the work of a very talented and respected journalist and writer. Thank you.
Also, I think this part is important for all of us to remember, that we have so many survivor stories yet to be heard and acknowledged. The victims within the Epstein files still don’t have justice. This quote is in response to why bigger creators and journalists aren’t reacting to/speaking about this story, “…we should already be shocked. We should already be saddened. We should already be fighting, and making TikToks, and calling our senators, and writing op-eds, and marching.”
Thank you for all that you’ve done here to get confirmation and due diligence. But I do believe Sascha’s story that he was horribly abused. This should definitely come out to show the ugly and horrific things that children endure which affects their entire life. I’m sure that if this injury did indeed happen to Trump he has covered it up entirely and others that know about it would have had to sign something or be threatened with death if they told! It would , however, explain all the talk about his incontinence and his lack of bodily function! So what about Andy Biggs and Gym Jordan?
After hearing the description of the prophylactic covered tent pole being kicked into DJT’s anus I think that he later would not have been able to rape people or fathers more children. The interior prostate and vein damage would have been too great.
🍊 💩 also raided the gastroenterologist's office and took all his files. The gastro then dies of mysterious circumstances. 🤔 Also, no one has a Gasto as a PC to my knowledge. He was also considered his PC? Hiding something?Sounds pretty legit to me!
Dr. Harold Bornstein, who served as Donald Trump's personal gastroenterologist for several decades, is known for his vocal criticism regarding the handling of Trump’s medical records. In 2017, shortly after Trump's election, Bornstein alleged that his office was "raided" by Trump's then-bodyguard Keith Schiller and a lawyer from the Trump Organization, who seized records without his consent.
Bornstein garnered significant media attention during Trump's 2016 presidential campaign for declaring Trump would be the "healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency." His glowing assessment was controversial, especially since he later revealed that Trump had dictated much of the letter himself. This admission indicated a complex relationship between the physician and his famous patient.
Dr. Harold Bornstein, former personal physician to Donald Trump, passed away on January 8, 2021, at the age of 73. His death sparked speculation, particularly due to the lack of details surrounding the cause and location of his passing, which were not disclosed in his obituary.
His many decades of adderal, benzos, and cocaine abuse (not to mention a diet of 100% fast food) are likely reasons (not that I don’t wish SR’s revenge was true!)
What matters here is keeping two things distinct: believing that severe abuse causes lifelong harm, and not filling evidentiary gaps with speculation about specific people or motives. Staying grounded in what can be documented — patterns of abuse, institutional silence, and how power protects itself — is what keeps this from sliding into claims that can’t be proven and ultimately weaken the accountability you’re rightly demanding.
You did not do your due diligence even in the sense of having listened closely to the audio files. Here is a major note and correction: Sascha didn’t escape after shoving the tent stake up Trump’s ass. He and his father went home, then some weeks or months later the father told him that they had to go and pay penance, then Sascha was gang raped and beaten until nearly dead by groups of several men at a time. The last couple groups actually brutally beat the adoptive father because the father stepped in on Sascha’s behalf, knowing that he would die if he was beaten more, and was beaten (and possibly also raped but I don’t remember) in Sascha’s stead. I believe this was from the second audio file.
Second - Oklahoma was never in question. The farms were supposed to have been in Tennessee and possibly other locations in the south, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia. I may be wrong but I don’t remember not once in audio tapes a mention of Oklahoma.
You subtly claim Lisa Noelle Voldeng called you personally with this, but you didn’t name her or link us original Substack with the tapes. That’s suspicious and all of these together with you questioning his credibility at the end makes me doubly suspicious of you.
I also think it’s worth mentioning that Lisa Voldeng refers to Sascha as he/him pronouns, possibly because the pronouns he has listed online are some sort of tongue in cheek something, but I think more likely that this story has a lot of nonspecific groups of “theys” and it gets confusing when we talk about Sascha, who, for the purpose of this specific legal-stylized story, it is important to remember that he’s male (or the “boy” that is in question, the center of the piece), but use plural verbs and a pronoun that we’re also frequently using to refer to several other sets of characters within the narrative. I’m such a heavy trans rights advocate; this is the one and only instance I’ve ever seen where it’s probably more important to use the most clear pronoun for the public.
You're correcting Ellie's reporting but say, "possibly raped but I don't remember," "I believe this was from the second audio file," and "I may be wrong but I don't remember not once in audio tapes a mention of Oklahoma." Do you know the facts from the audio files or don't you? You yourself didn't review the transcripts to confirm the details you're disputing?
There are legitimate problems with Sascha's timeline and some of the details he has provided. You're seemingly upset because Ellie's reporting suggests that we MUST, if we're doing our actual due diligence, reserve judgement because the story is not as yet verifiable. Nowhere does she discredit Sascha and in fact, I think she's been very careful not the suggest that.
It serves no one, least of all Sascha, to move forward with rather incredible claims without some kind of corroboration. If proof exists, we move forward on the basis that Sascha is telling the truth, once it has been verified. Otherwise, how would you suggest justice can be served in this case? That prosecutors file charges against the men named in Sascha's testimony based on that testimony alone? That's it?
There is a case of an adjudicated rapist who was found guilty who caused his victim physical harm requiring surgery. He was released with a slap on the wrist due to privilege (the Jesse Mack Butler case). You don't think that Donald Trump can easily discredit Sascha and escape consequences once again? Because he can.
Victims like Virginia Giuffre and numerous other survivors who have come forward with more evidence than this have been largely unsuccessful in bringing consequences for their assailants. A sensational, unverified story helps no one.
I hope that Sascha is getting the help and protection he needs because I do believe he may be a legitimate abuse survivor. We just don't know if his testimony is truthful yet although it sounds like he believes it is. Saying "believe the survivors no matter what" doesn't serve justice. It's only helpful if it actually does and in this case, it doesn't yet.
Unless confirmation bias is the only thing you think is important here, your suspicions about Ellie's reporting, which isn't sensational in the least, on a viral story that many want to believe, aren't helping anyone and aren't helping other survivors either.
I completely agree Angie. Corroboration/Verification are not personal. It is part of a repeatable process to determine facts. I was surprised by seeing Oklahoma, as I heard Sascha say Tennessee,Alabama,Florida, but never mentioned Oklahoma.
This initial analysis 🧐 is thorough and unbiased. In all her reporting: As more information becomes available, Ellie has always pursued it and refined the analysis even more.
Ellie has experience with survivors of Epstein AND incredible research talent, that is what makes her perspective extraordinary - valuable and respected. Thank you 🙏🏻 Ellie, for being fearless in your presentation of what you found and also- what you didn’t! A true journalist, with integrity.
There is proof, corroboration and evidence that didn’t make it into either Ellie’s article or the live.
1. PD in Oklahoma confirmed the police report Sascha filed. They have not been released yet.
2. Sascha’s first Sargent confirmed (last week) they were in the meeting with Sascha after the snuff film was discovered on the laptop. They did not see the film themselves. The Sargent confirmed that disciplinary measures were taken against the laptop owner. This conversation is documented
There were also some details Ellie included that were inconsistent with my listening. I’m going to give it a second listen in order to refresh my memory and notes.
Notably, that had to do with locations. Im curious if Ellie’s initial research was based on what Lise verbally said over the phone.
I’m also interested in facts being corroborated. Sascha, until their replies on threads have started being hidden, shared pieces of evidence they had and folks have been following up on those leads, specifically.
Noel Casler has written about Trump’s collection of snuff films, publicly and hasn’t been sued.
Beyond a doubt, our President is obsessed with causing harm to others.
Angie I didn’t announce that I was releasing my official findings about Sascha at 8pm. I’m discrediting Ellie’s findings though because of how glaringly and obviously different it is that what Voldeng published. I may not be able to confirm all of the inaccuracies off the top of my head, but you seem to have missed my broader point; she got the entire story wrong and anyone who listened to the originals will hear that. Go listen.
And to my broader points? What do you have to say. What do you have to gain from Sascha's story being true versus untrue? You have no reason to doubt anything Ellie has said. She doesn't do hit pieces. She works with survivors in the interest of exposing Trump and Epstein network of crimes. I don't get why you're so emotionally invested in that Sascha must be telling the truth. What's wrong with waiting until Ms. Voldeng publishes the material she SAYS she has? Why do you need the story to be 100% believed by everyone reading Ellie's report right here right now? Have you ever read any of her previous reporting? Yeah, I'm suspicious too. Of your motives. Not Ellie's.
The dates don’t line up. The people mentioned don’t lined up. The story has more holes than Swiss cheese. Add to that, he reported it right before the election and it screams DNC hoax. Sasha also has a PEDO TATTOO that he posted August 2022. It means “boy lover”. This guy is a pedophile himself.
And the snuff films that definitely exist and were made while he was a child? How do you explain that? A child that is traumatized and given drugs night get names and dates wrong. Video evidence doesn't lie
Shane I completely agree. I’m passionate about helping Sascha get his story into light, and this sort of piece damages the entire thing’s credibility. Infuriating.
Ok, so because the story that was TOLD TO Ellie doesn't match the story that is told in the audio files, you are suspicious of Ellie?? The people TELLING the story are giving completely conflicting/different accounts, but you're not suspicious of that??
This ridiculously illogical "gotcha" makes me extremely suspicious of you.
Be suspicious of me! I made no claim of releasing my own new information. She alluded to the woman telling her all this as having moved Sascha out of the country. That would mean Lisa Voldeng. And this conflicts with what Lisa Voldeng, who spoke directly to Sascha.
My point exactly! Do you not understand what told to means? If the stories being told to Ellie are conflicting with the stories being told in the audio files, that brings the storyteller under suspicion, NOT the person being told the story. I've been following Ellie for a couple months, and I'm positive she would not lie and say that she was told something that she wasn't told.
Perhaps it's just your ability to be logical that's under suspicion, but drawing the conclusion that Ellie is the one to be suspicious of is utterly irrational.
Let's simplify this so maybe you can understand..... you have a friend, let's call her Lisa, who tells you a story. Later, you overhear Lisa telling what seems to be the same story to another friend, let's call her Ellie, but what you overhear Lisa telling Ellie has details that are completely different, and contradict, the details she told you..... Lisa has given conflicting information, but Ellie is the one you're suspicious of? That makes zero sense. Not even zero, it makes negative sense.
Do you NOT think the fact that the story she was told (by someone who reached out to her, claiming to have heard it directly from them) contradicts the story that was released elsewhere is relevant? She relayed what she was told, what she found in her attempts to corroborate what she was told, and then allows the reader to come to their own conclusions. If the story is contradicted elsewhere, that should (in the mind of anyone logical) be considered when drawing those conclusions.
"It’s okay to say something doesn’t feel right or doesn’t add up." I believe that this is probably alluding to the fact that what she was told doesn't match the audio files in every detail.... but instead of hitting people over the head with that, she is giving them the option to have that realization for themselves.... but that's an ACTUAL opinion (my own), unlike the vast majority of what she wrote (which, is, in reality a factual accounting of what she was told, and everything she found when she attempted to corroborate what she was told--which is very different than an "opinion").
Personally, I am curious if Ellie spoke to Sascha directly or only to Voldeng. I do notice in the tapes that Sascha makes a lot of effort to qualify certain statements when unsure and it’s not quite so clear that Voldeng makes the same effort. I’m suspicious of Voldeng also because she can’t even use the correct pronouns for Sascha. If Ellie spoke to Voldeng but not Sascha directly, it would certainly make a difference.
Matilda u would want to point out that in real journalism Ellie would have ALWAYS named Lisa Noelle Voldeng in this piece. The fact that she didn’t name her makes me believe that she in fact did not ever speak with Lisa, much less Sascha. She got key facts wrong - and ended on a note of “well I couldn’t find proof Trump or Epstein were involved so I just can’t say for sure.” This piece is worse than an op ed victim hit piece because it calls into question Sascha’s credibility without even understanding the claims he made.
Olivia, you are looking more and more like a troll. If you don’t agree with Ellie just don’t agree and move on with your life. You don’t have to insert yourself in every comment and attempt to drag Ellie through the mud and discredit her. You are looking more and more suspicious.
Olivia, what do you think......if the pronouns and as you mentioned, non-specific groups got me thinking about.... how children that were severely traumatized like Sascha speaks of what he has experienced there maybe multiple personalities that helped Sascha cope. Depending on who you are speaking with, Maybe these other personalities have different experiences 🤔
Yeah that’s definitely a possibility, and one reason why I think maybe Sascha really does use those pronouns irl. I can’t say, I don’t know Sascha. But I do get the impression that Sascha wants this story to be as clear as possible, to as many people as possible. I almost fear this piece is a hit job to try to make finding Sascha’s truth harder.
I listened to the tapes 2 times throughout. Olivia, what you quote is accurate. I was also impressed within the recordings the discussion that both had about the importance of evidence and what they were each working on. It appeared by their comments that they, too, wanted to be as accurate as possible to confirm Sacha's story.
Clearly you have not listened to any of the many, many livestreams that Ellie has been on, which make it blatantly obvious that she would NEVER, EVER write a "hit job" about a survivor. She has quit her job in order to pour through Epstein files ceaselessly, recruited her followers to contribute to that effort, and devoted herself to finding the truth FOR THE SURVIVORS.
Maybe take a look into who you're writing about, before you start a "hit job" in the comments of her article.
As for the possibility that Sascha has Dissociative Identity Disorder, that is the only thing you've said that actually makes sense. When repressed memories or memories held by an alter that doesn't typically "front" surface, it's very possible that they are not 100% accurate, no matter how hard the multiple (i.e. person who has multiple people within) or the person fronting is trying to be accurate. The potential exists for a conflating of current figures in the media with the perpetrators of the abuse, completely unintentionally and unconsciously on the part of the person fronting and trying to relay the information that they're getting from one of the others within.
I had quite a few hours of interaction online with a multiple, and he (the front I was speaking to was male) described himself in ways that turned out to be completely inaccurate during a later interaction. I'm sure he believed what he told me about himself, but then whoever came forward and took over the interaction with me acted in ways completely opposite what the one who usually fronted said.
Now, I don't have any doubt that the orange narcissist is capable of anything in terms of cruelty, but your attempt to smear Ellie is absolutely unconscionable, and exactly the opposite of what someone who cares about the truth should be doing.
Corina it’s like you’ve missed the onus of what I’ve said. Her reporting is Bad. She’s a Bad journalist. Maybe you’re 100% right - she would never want to write a hit piece, blah blah whatever. How the hell does it help a single survivor that she’s now put out a different story that people could hear and confuse them of what Sascha actually said? When I was raped I went through a similar situation - a nurse added her own nonsense into my rape kit statement- trying to be helpful- but it made me lose credibility when the court had multiple conflicting narratives. This is Much worse than that though because we’re not trying to convince one court, but the entire public. The public isn’t smart enough for conflicting narratives. So either your girl Ellie here is just bad at her job, or she’s intentionally muddying the waters. Calling it like I see it as a literal survivor who has gone through this.
Oliva, just a gentle reminder, Ellie states she is not a journalist. She has never claimed to be. Neither are we. Do not shoot the messenger. She only gave her opinion on what she dug into. She is a writer and worked as a transcriber....listen to her and how many times she has explained her background. Ellie, took the time to at least give it a go, while she is still organizing the Epstein files to help the victims that are already front and center.
My suggestion would be to get your own team of collaboraters and start working on it. Post the findings with your own team.
Don't you think that would be the kind way forward ✨️
Yes, I am autistic, and take things literally, so since you said things like you were "suspicious," and that you feared it was a "hit job," blah, blah, blah, that's what I believed you actually meant. It's pretty difficult for someone who takes things literally to catch the "onus" when your actual words don't give much indication of what you now claim it to be. See, I actually say what I mean and mean what I say, and it's unfathomable to me how allistics just can't seem to grasp that concept.
You attacked her integrity, which I have zero doubt of, so I defended.
But the reality is that you've missed the "onus" of what I said, which is that if there are conflicting narratives, it is due to her being GIVEN a narrative that conflicted with another, NOT creating one, as you seem to have convinced yourself.
Also, others in these comments have said that Sascha DID mention Oklahoma, which you insisted they had not, so you, yourself have now given a conflicting narrative, as well.
See, the thing is, Ellie isn't trying to "convince" anyone (which would be the job of a propagandist, not a journalist), she's trying to find the TRUTH. And she serves the survivors every day by looking for it.
If your assumption is correct, that it was Lisa who contacted Ellie, then how about assigning responsibility for the conflicting narratives FAIRLY, which would mean it would be Lisa's. "How the hell" is Lisa helping Sascha's struggle to be believed by contacting reporters and telling them a conflicting narrative???
Clearly, she really needs to be more conscious of the fact that her story needs to completely match Sascha's, otherwise she is doing much more harm than good (and exposing incredibly earnest, ethical, victim-supporting reporters of immense integrity to unfair attacks and discounting).
It's actually disgusting to me, that someone would use & disrespect Ellie by demonstrating such a massive lack of conscientiousness. The onus (no quotation marks this time, because I'm actually using the word correctly) of responsibility is on Lisa to actually put some thought into how her presentation of the story impacts believability.
It's also a very sad commentary on the state of "journalism" in the world today, that you would call someone a "Bad journalist" because she is objectively reporting what she was told, the steps she took in trying to corroborate what she was told, and what she found, as opposed to propagandizing, which is what you seem to believe "journalists" should do.
If I remember correctly, Sascha referred to something similar in a facebook post on their adoptive father’s page. They said something to the effect of “the different parts of me are talking to each other now”. I will see if I can find it.
I also commented on the audio tapes indicating the “parties” took place in the south. Alabama seems to be where the head pedo was annally impaled. Also, people involved in this level of criminal activity are not gonna leave a paper or physical trail. His adopted parents probably paid cash for almost everything.
Definitely definitely she is a grifter, and the comments here reflect decades of no child left behind and attacks on media literacy training. Makes sense why survivor stories are so often discredited too unfortunately.
I have commented before on this courageous story, so forgive if I'm being repetitive. I'm an 80 yo retired physician/psychiatrist and a CA survivor myself. I was the acting Medical Dir. for an inpatient treatment program in West Michigan devoted to treating SA AND SRA survivors, and interviewed/admitted many dozens of mostly adult women who had CPTSD and often dissociative disorders. I was shocked by the stories they told, which bore a similar scenario to Sascha's and the Epstein stories. I, also, heard about "farms" in MI and WI where wealthy men flew-in and partook in sexual abuse of children and adults. One very attractive woman I saw in my outpatient office kept coming to follow-up appointments and I would ask her why she kept going back to the "farm" when requested by management, she stated that she had had a child at the farm and that he was living there, was never given a birth certificate and legally did not exist. She kept returning for the sexual responsibilities because she was threatened that her son would be murdered if she did not comply. The general description of Sascha's treatment and even the murders seem real possibilities to me as they match-up with many details I heard over a number of years. And that doesn't even include the SRA stories, including child sacrifices in cemeteries on Halloween. This material was so traumatizing for me that I started drinking after a 13 yr. period of sobriety and eventually had to retire at 67 to devote myself to getting sober again in 2011. So, thank you for your fine journalism and my heart goes out to all SA and SRA survivors. This is a far bigger problem here in the US than the MSM has led us to believe. Have a blessed evening and be very grateful to your "Higher Power" if this story and Sascha's in unfamiliar to you.
Bless you for being honest. PinkTweets doesn't hold back, but I'm glad because I am curious about your answer as well. Were you afraid ? Perhaps you self medicated out of guilt ? Glad you were able to get sober.
That care shows in the way the work stays grounded without losing compassion — it respects survivors while protecting the record from distortion. Staying engaged with that kind of rigor is one way this attention actually leads somewhere instead of fading.
I have posted all of the marriage/divorce records to my Threads. They indeed are available on genealogical websites. It was my understanding that Sascha claims all of those shocking abuses occurred not in Oklahoma, but on farms in Enterprise, Al and Georgia. Which can be verified as locations lived for William Kyle Riley. WKR also attended Troy State University from 1982-88 and earned a degree in Pilot Engineering (sic). Troy is located in Dothan, Al which is where the psych institute Sascha alleges they were sent.
Enterprise, Al also has a small municipal airport where private planes could easily circulate traffic. It is also near Jonesboro, Ga. Sascha obtained their SSN in Alabama in 1987-8. Which opens other questions.
One other issue: the names listed on Sascha’s adoption case files are those of the adoptive parents and the defendant is their bio father, Manuel Joseph Barros. I think investigating the relationship between Manuel and WKR may reveal something important. There are patterns I see which may reveal a complicit nature between the two. But that is strictly theoretical.
I enjoyed how you investigated the tent stakes. Remember, they could have been from another period (the ones in our house were from the 1960s and I suspect my father may still have them😎).
Re. the relationship between WKR and the bio father: I remember seeing info stating they both were in the military, serving in Germany at the same time, and served together. That was the connection. Sascha was born in Germany. Can't remember where I saw this: might have been told by Sascha himself in a post. He did admit he found his biological mother and father, but never reached out to them.
That’s how Sascha claimed it to be, however I have found only one record that may be attributed to WKR’s service, and none for bio father Manuel Joseph Barros. There IS a Manuel Joseph BARRIOS who served in Korea, but it appears to be a different individual. Mr. Barros was born in 1951(location unknown) and Mr. Barrios was born in 1953 in NJ. To compound things, there is a different William Riley who was KIA in 1973, in Germany. We have to be meticulous when connecting to the records. I sense Sascha can verify that information!
Judy- excellent find and thank you. My training forced me to seek if this was WKR or another WR. I was waiting to have a corroboration, which happened with the mention of “Air Evac”- as I do have that experience in my files for him. Strangely, there isn’t any mention of his studies at Troy State (in Dothan, Al- near Enterprise) from 1982-88. That’s a strange omission, imo.
This kind of records-based work is exactly what keeps accountability grounded. Documenting locations, timelines, and public filings matters — and it’s important to separate what can be verified from what remains theoretical so survivors aren’t harmed by overreach.
I would absolutely hate for “an exception that disproves the rule” to discredit all the hard work people like you are doing. These people are masters at deception & discrediting operations. Thank you for diligently looking into everything instead of immediately jumping at a story. Remember if you're a target you're winning!!!
Excuse me, what did Ms Slop Artist do, exactly? She spent more time talking about herself. Everyone that is serious about this has red flagged Ellie's "findings". They didn't flag it because of survivors story, but because of the slop she delivered and your soaking up. Your still soaking up trash no matter how much you complement how pretty the trash is, it's still f'ing trash.
She even admits to sending it to the Epstein journalists to ok before she published it. Jesus F'ing Christ y'all are f'ing sheep. "Thank you mam, can I have another" gulp gulp gulp more trash please gulp gulp.
F'ing stupid! Y'all don't care what we survivors really think, u just want a cute little talking point wrapped in a bow🎀.
🎀Fuck most men! Fuck most politicians! Fuck all billionaires. Fuck Ice! Fuck Trump and his boy toy Stevie Nazi Miller. Fuck mainstream media for not covering this story and for covering for this class of sadists too. And Fuck unprincipled journalists like our unbeloved Ellie, who never met a journalists she didn't want to ass suck.! Well there you go, like my therapist always says, thanks for sharing, u can thank me later or not.🎀
That concern is well placed — discrediting one detail is often used as a shortcut to dismiss entire bodies of evidence. Careful verification isn’t a delay tactic here, it’s the safeguard that keeps the work intact against exactly those kinds of bad-faith attacks, and staying attentive together is how that effort holds.
What can be said responsibly is that names were approached with caution — where records or corroboration existed, they were examined; where they didn’t, they were not treated as established fact. That restraint is what protects survivors and the integrity of the work, and staying engaged with that standard is how the record stays credible.
Thank you for your hard work and diligence! As a survivor myself, I really appreciate that you understand how difficult it is to come forward AND how many people either don’t remember things properly or flat out lie due to their trauma. I’ve helped many trafficking survivors in my family and they often say things they 100% believe, but just aren’t true. It’s not intentional. It’s a reaction from such severe trauma. I believe Sascha is a survivor!! That doesn’t mean his testimony is entirely accurate. 🙏💗
I was thinking this too about how trauma may have affected their memory.
I also believe he is!
Agree
"BELIEVE VICTIMS."
It's what we're all told. Dismissing Any allegation of Sexual or Physical Abuse is a legacy of survivors never being believed for so long.
I listened to all the tapes. I originally found Sascha's story quite compelling. But the more he went on, specific stories and specific details seemed fishy.
Do I think Sacha is a Survivor? Plausibly.
But Sascha makes specific claims about certain specific people. Namely... THE GD PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, just because they might be a Survivor does not make their allegations against specific people true nor every story factual or prove that there aren't any allegations weren't FABRICATED.
And making that allegation against any other abuse victim would be WAY OUT OF LINE, we're talking about the President of the United States who is also an adjudicated Rapist, diagnosed Pathological Narcissist, sadistic Psychopath, pathological liar and Sadist who was twice impeached as president but nonetheless avoided punishment nor completion of trials of his dozens of felonies and then was reelected president with a LARGER number and percentage of the vote.
Why anyone would fabricate anything about this guy? I have NO IDEA.
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I just want to say at this point that I am a Survivor. I've only told this to a tiny handful of people. My abuser was my Grandfather. I haven't told people about this because my Grandfather physically and mentally abused my father until he left the house at 17. And to know he trusted HIS father with being around and able to abuse me would be DEVASTATING to him.
His abuse was short lived. At the time I was to young to understand what was happening. Only in hindsight did I recognize it as Sexual abuse. He hired a babysitter for me when I was EIGHT that in hindsight was likely a child prostitute he hired to test my sexuality. To engage in sex with me.
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I am also a FAN of Survivor, or at least WAS. The TV show, "Survivor." You know the #! show from the guy that brought you, I DON'T KNOW... THE APPRENTICE? The show that rehabbed Trump's image that convinced America that Trump was an amazingly successful Bazillionaire after we watched him fail over and over.
I agree.
“Trust … but verify.”
That is wise.
Julie K. Brown has huge amounts of privileged information on the survivors who have not agreed to let their stories be public. She said in 2019 when she was breaking the Epstein deal of 2008 in "The Miami Herald" that there was "no evidence" that Trump was involved in Epstein's crimes! Let that register in your brain and in your emotions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAlVNxnJd3U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0_vlaWPiOA
There should have been a dozen tough as bulldogs investigative reporters on this story with the Miami Herald, not a woman with just minimal backups. Steve Bannon said that the Epstein story was their greatest worry in the 2016 campaign! Let that register, a top reporter says there was no evidence of Trump's involvement according to her sources and research and one of the smart crafty and cunning lackeys says that it was their "greatest" worry!
There is no doubt that there were extensive child rape and molestations, which are the gravest of crimes, there were private investigators, their own lawyers, their families that were paid off, some were probably snuffed out like Epstein! In my town we have former Epstein handler Leslie Groff who has faced no justice though everyone close to this case know she is guilty as sin. Release all the Files!
There is plenty of proof
I'm confused as to the main point you're making here - not arguing, just needing clarification.
Virginia G. said she was sent to Thailand to bring back a child someone bought.
Virginia G. got married,moved to Australia.She never brought the child back to Epstein.
Who was buying children?What mZhappened to the children?Where are they?
Also,survivors that received money from Epstein estate
have been silenced by legal means .They must be released from legal sanctions.
If a survivor wants to talk,that should be allowed.
This story is bigger and darker than than imagined.
It's a very big story for every journalist who've tried to cover a part of it: https://www.americanfreakshow.news/p/the-french-connection
Julie K. Brown broke the stories centered around the 2008 "deal" in 2018: https://www.npr.org/2020/11/12/934265386/jeffrey-epsteins-former-prosecutors-used-poor-judgment-in-deal-doj-says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_K._Brown
Those looking for full and robust justice centered around the largest human trafficking cases in history should stay focused on the evidence as the entire US government has demanded with many politicians just being hypocritical on the issue, pretending and voting for the release of all records then fighting against that.
I think her point was he wasn't implicated in the testimonials from the survivors she had interviewed, which he wasn't. She was in no way implying he's in the clear. Katie Johnson's deposition is the most compelling.
I agree; too bad some wealthy person did not step up to the plate during Trump's run to thoroughly back her with lots of money and protection as the dark forces threaten every whistleblower with lawsuits and physical violence.
What you’re naming here is exactly the tension that gets lost in public conversations — believing survivors and taking trauma seriously doesn’t mean suspending discernment. Trauma can fracture memory without intent or malice, and careful documentation is what protects survivors from being dismissed wholesale while also protecting the record from collapse. Holding both truths at once is hard, but it’s the only way accountability survives long-term.
Yes!!! This!!! It’s not diminishing or invalidating anyone’s experience to recognize that memory, all memories good or bad, are flawed. That’s simple science. What we do as we move forward in supporting survivors is what matters.
I listened to Sascha’s tapes and my gut said, yes, this person was SA but the stories are really inaccurate. They became a little over the top. I’m relieved you applied your expertise to the records. I have family members who experienced SA and recall and memory blackouts are huge. Bits and pieces can be remembered but often the brain protects itself by forgetting or misplacing some memories. My family members this happened to are also “wrong rememberers” which may be ways the phyche also protects itself. I am not saying don’t believe SA accusations or accounts but non biased review is important.
This dark space is not easy to navigate, we will need a lot of feedback.
I don’t believe any of these stupid stories. Killing babies and eating them, Hillary Clinton hunting women with rifles and shooting them. Come on people!
The SUPERMAJORITY PLAN TO IMPEACH TRUMP and HIS ADMINISTRATION
It will take 292 house and 67 senate votes to obtain a supermajority vote. This is the key to accomplishing anything in the house or senate. The house and senate will be able to impeach Trump and his administration for their crimes and corruption.
The Democrats are the only ones that will stand against Trump. We have to vote out as many republicans as possible.
EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS IN THE NOVEMBER 3RD MIDTERM ELECTIONS TO MAKE THIS WORK
Make sure you share this with everyone you know without social media. People without social media are unaware how corrupt and detrimental Trump’s administration really is for our country. The media outlets do not post anything negative about Trump. Some people don’t even know what the midterm elections are or how important they are.
TRUMP, HIS ADMINISTRATION, HIS BILLIONAIRE PEDOPHILE NETWORK , AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE WORKING CLASS TO SURVIVE.
WE HAVE TO STOP THEM FROM DESTROYING THE COUNTRY
Wow, that’s a chunk of DARVO all in one, Kristen.
What you’re sharing underscores something important: trauma doesn’t produce a single, uniform outcome. Some survivors retain precise memory; others experience fragmentation — both are real, and neither invalidates the harm endured. Truth-seeking that respects survivors while staying anchored to verification is what makes justice possible without erasing anyone’s experience.
I am a survivor of repeated trauma. And I do not remember every detail, so are you claiming that everybody who has experienced trauma has to have your exact experience for it to be true? If so, that’s gross and you should feel ashamed of yourself!
No — that isn’t what’s being said here, and it’s important to slow this down rather than let it turn into a hierarchy of suffering. Trauma doesn’t produce a single memory pattern, and nobody’s experience becomes less real because it looks different from someone else’s. The point being made throughout this thread is that survivors can be believed while also acknowledging that trauma affects memory in different ways, which is why careful, respectful truth-seeking matters — for everyone.
Thank you for clarifying your intention, and I hear you. The last thing I—or anyone here—wants is to create more pain between survivors. I reacted strongly because the wording of your first reply could be read as shaming those who don’t remember every detail, which is a harmful stereotype many of us face daily.
My point was never to challenge your experience, but to defend the validity of all experiences, including those where memory is fragmented or protected by the mind. If we’re truly supporting each other, then that support must include believing survivors without requiring perfect recall.
I respect your pain and appreciate you speaking up. I hope we can agree that the system too often fails survivors by demanding proof, and that our solidarity is strongest when we trust each other’s truths, however they are remembered.
WOW. The depravity, in total, is horrendous. Whether or not Sascha's 'story' or 'stories' are true/verifiable or not, it sounds similar to other victims in many ways. I am outraged, will continue to be outraged, and I will continue to hound my senators, congressperson, and others to PUBLICLY RELEASE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE. Also, may Ghislaine suffer explosive diarrhea every day until she dies in her spa-prison. Thank you, Ellie.
I think life-long constipation would be better for Ghislaine. Diarrhea is too good for her.
Oooo...you are correct!
No memory is perfect or even completely reliable. We’ve all seen the shows depicting a crime in a class or lecture hall and all the witnesses stories conflict. But AGREE THERE WAS A CRIME!!! These stories are beyond grotesque! They exist as surely as rich privileged, soulless men high five each other as they commit crimes so dark it’s un fathomable to most humans. And that’s how they get away with it!!!!! As a woman and a mother all women are me and all children are mine!
Explosive, uncontrollable diarrhea until the end of her days...
or come clean with all facts. wouldn't that be something.
I think she fears death if she speaks facts.
She may as well talk to the media because her days are numbered anyway with three more years of Trump. Some enterprising individual is going to find a way to kill her if the money is big enough.
We all
Know the stories of Trump being incontinant. Ask Noel castler. They used to have to change his diaper on the set of celebrity apprentice. It’s fact and it’s all out there. They even called the guy that did it wet wipes.
She’ll probably end up being unalived by supposed suicide like Epstein and so many others
Why haven’t all the Epstein files been released, as mandated by the law? Why have the names of the apparent predators been redacted? Is this because Trump and his DOG are protecting his “friends”, as per MTG?
I recently listened to the Tucker Carlson/Ian Carroll show about the Epstein files. It surprised and shocked me that Carlson minimized Trump’s involvement, but there is very little direct evidence regarding Trump in the files, mainly hints at his involvement and horrible, disturbing tips which the FBI apparently never really investigated. We need to see the rest of the files. I suspect evidence about Trump has simply been moved there.
The resurgence of the Pizzagate theory
The outrage makes sense — what keeps coming through is how closely these accounts echo documented patterns of abuse and institutional silence, even when specific details still need verification. Staying focused on transparency, records, and public release is what turns that anger into pressure that can’t be dismissed, and continuing to bear witness together is part of what keeps this from being buried again.
We can neither confirm nor deny. And that is where this story lays. Period. It's neither verifiably true nor demonstrably untrue. The truth is very likely somewhere in between, as they say.
Thank you for your investigative work, Ellie. It's outstanding, as we've come to expect from you.
That is only one story! There are hundreds!!HUNDREDS! In this thread alone! How much proof does anyone need! It’s all out there!
That’s a clear and responsible way to hold the line — acknowledging uncertainty without erasing harm or rushing to conclusions. Keeping the record honest, bounded by what can and can’t be verified, is exactly what gives investigative work its strength and keeps accountability conversations credible over time.
Your a dumb POS, hope you didn't strain all 5 of your brain cells to solve this mystery!! Golly Jeez Ellie, your the smartest person I know. U people make me sick. As a f'ing survivor your attitude and this shitty writer are the problem. "We can neither confirm nor deny. That is where the story lays. Period." Y'all deserve to be shamed for the rest of your lives starting now.
Hey Ellie, my goal is to reply to every one of your ass kissers until people see you for the mainstream media slop artist you are.
Ellie did the best she could with the resources she had access to. Basically she isnt saying he lied about DT but that she couldn't verify much of what he claimed. I think if Sascha wanted to enhance his believability he would (as he said he would) take a proper lie detector test and post the results for the public to see. Personally I believe most of his story but I cant or dont feel certain about some of the details. I hope MSN follows through with the interview of Sascha because Lisa V dropped the ball on him imo.
Truth conveyed with empathy. 🎯 Please disregard those that are less than supportive; you followed your North Star. ⭐️
That balance is the point — empathy without distortion, truth without spectacle. Staying oriented to that North Star is what keeps the work credible when emotions run high and pressure pushes people toward absolutes.
Well done Ellie. This must be one of, if not the, hardest things you’ve ever written and investigated. It’s so difficult to believe that things like this go on in the world, but sadly and sickeningly they do.
It shows — taking on work like this means sitting with realities most people would rather look away from, and doing it carefully instead of sensationally. Staying with that discomfort, and keeping the record honest, is how truth actually serves people rather than exploiting them.
I am so conflicted. Their story is horrific and explicit. It reads as if it is some sort of S&M pornographic fan-fiction- all of the names we want to hear named are. We want to believe their story because the atrocities described are absolutely plausible in the persons accused. I must also ask, was this story so eagerly accepted because it was brought by a male? RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES NOW.
My thinking is people are talking about it more than the women is because even though these are old interviews..it was a reporter from Canada who released them. He has been telling his story for many years. Back in 2022 he tweeted on Andy Biggs twitter account that he remembers him as the person who almost beat him to death. The way are administration is keeping these files hush..hush…I think the women should do interviews in another country and let them release. I was also wondering if more people are obsessed with him because he doesn’t hold back from telling names(big names) Where as the girls are telling their details, but there also keeping in mind the legality of naming powerful men. Years of trauma just to be sued. When is Congress going to release names on house floor? They said they won’t get in trouble if they do it..verses the girls.
Yes, naming names is part of it but Katie johnson named trump and epstein.
What happened to Katie Johnson and her friend Maria?
They are not old interviews. They were conducted in July 2025.
That Lise/Lisa individual is nowhere near being a reporter. Canada is actually quite a sophisticated country; we have multiple news organizations, both mainstream and independent, and serious, credible journalists. Sascha didn't reach out to any of them, and the only reasoning Sascha has ever given for why they contacted Lise is because "she's not from the US".
They are afraid of retribution. Why is this guy still alive if this is true.did he say anything about hiding or being in protective custody ? Why didn’t he go to one of the lawyers working for other survivors ? Has he contacted other survivors. I didn’t listen because I don’t believe it g won't until a reputable journalist releases it. And they won't touch it until it is thoroughly vetted lest they be sued big time if it's false.
The difference in how Sascha presents their story is the difference in many male victims. Of course they’re going all out and naming the big names. They have extreme loyalty to those that didn’t make it out. They’re a soldier with survivors guilt and they don’t care if they have to die to share what happened to those girls they told stories about. They might not know how to be the most credible victim but that’s what makes them even more believable to me.
Another sheep bahhhbahhhing. " I was also wondering if more people are obsessed with him because he doesn't hold back from telling names(big names)"
By golly George I think she's got it, F'ing Dahh!
Also how well did you even read her BS when you clearly messed up spreading her slop cause at every turn you refer to Sascha as him, he when they asked to be called them, they. Even your miracle worker from the heavens did that very basic thing.👏👏👏👏👍
Keep going I'm sure it's fine.🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🫣😭😭😭😭
I believe there was a similar story that was true but it was in an earlier time frame.
Good gawd! Please do not throw divisive chit into the mix. Focus.
Sascha has accounts to tell and deserves to be heard as much as anyone. No one is negating anything similar from females, except Tя☭mp's fans.
Regarding how it “reads”…it doesn't. It's out there for listening and if you listen well, you don't hear scripted material or anything but sincerity from a traumatized, yet mentally strong person who is a survivor.
Sascha's voice, apologetic stammers, recollections mid thought, feelings for what happened to other kids who were there with him all come tumbling out.
It's not like anything said has been embellished to grab your interest. Just facts laid out…including acknowledging that some instances were fuzzy but it was the most important ones that needed to be recalled.
Don't forget: this all happened many years ago and the abuse started in the “family” home, from age 2. The physical abuse, including forced fighting, certainly took a toll on what was a very young body and brain.
Sadly, it was the only life he knew after such an early indoctrination into the nasty world of freaks who get off on harming kids in myriad ways.
Sascha is a survivor and he, himself, said he vowed he'd live to tell of his abuse (including his adoptive parents attemping to kill him), the snuff filming and puppy killing, the occurrences of having to fight grown men, and being begged to end a friend's life (at her own request) in order to stop a young woman's pain… anguish…torture at the hands of some very creepy yokels.
If I'm wrong, so be it; I'll admit it.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😊😊😊😊😊Thank you!! I actually found some common since on Ellie Leonards "findings". Ellie has made money off of this survivor story for months and she should be publicly shamed everyday for her both siding f'ing child rape and murder.
As a survivor I refuse to be nice to this slop artist, but if I was gonna be I would try to sound more like you. But I'm not so Fuck That Bitch!! 🙊🫣
Ellie Leonard! Go get a job your good at, maybe go teach MAGA how to read, then you can show them how to write alternative facts. I'm sure they will love you over there.
You'll be missed never!!😭😭😭😭👏👏👏
Wow... your really a nasty girl. What are you doing here? Are you trying to embarrass yourself., your getting that done! Go get some psycho help.
It may read that way from her writing but from their audio tape interview, the recounting sounds just about as close to myself when I was in therapy for dissociative identity disorder (this is a diagnosis I was extremely resistant to then zealous about healing), after escaping a white Christian nationalist/zionist cult family that didn’t commit the overt sexual acts but did commit a measurable amount of the sadistic ritualized physical and psychological abuse as they describe.
I’ve been able to recover, and I know there is some amount of story twisting that can happen with DID memories, but for me that experience was something I was able to flesh out in therapy and I was absolutely committed to not speak a detail I didn’t remember in full as if it’s true. Sascha has all the same behaviors. I believe them as vigorously as I believe my own fractured mind.
it sounds unbelievable, they have been made to sound not credible to anyone that hasn’t studied this kind of torture or experienced it themselves… but it lines up in every way with the psychological imprint it’s left on their story an how others are reacting to it. Maybe let’s say the most extreme detail about the tent stake didn’t happen, that could have been something they created to cope with the real abuse when they were 12. that doesn’t make them less credible.
I just read a story the other day on how trump got into S&M very early in his life. Wow!
What is s&m?
R u a bot? You literally could have googled that and saved the humiliation of looking like a dumb ass. Oh wait, we are on Ellie Leonard's page, so carry on.👏👏👏 I'm sure it's fine.😭😭
That’s a little rough. I didn’t know either. I’m glad she asked.
Bad stuff, sadism & masochism. Inflicting pain for sexual pleasure. 🤮
You handled this story with such integrity without accusing anyone involved of any ill intent. It is important to believe survivors, but it’s also important to corroborate timelines and background information, especially in such a high profile situation. Being able to respect Sascha’s truth while also acknowledging the reality that there is currently no verifiable proof based on the information you were given, is the work of a very talented and respected journalist and writer. Thank you.
Also, I think this part is important for all of us to remember, that we have so many survivor stories yet to be heard and acknowledged. The victims within the Epstein files still don’t have justice. This quote is in response to why bigger creators and journalists aren’t reacting to/speaking about this story, “…we should already be shocked. We should already be saddened. We should already be fighting, and making TikToks, and calling our senators, and writing op-eds, and marching.”
thanks for your commitment and heart-makes me feel better about humans
Thank you for all that you’ve done here to get confirmation and due diligence. But I do believe Sascha’s story that he was horribly abused. This should definitely come out to show the ugly and horrific things that children endure which affects their entire life. I’m sure that if this injury did indeed happen to Trump he has covered it up entirely and others that know about it would have had to sign something or be threatened with death if they told! It would , however, explain all the talk about his incontinence and his lack of bodily function! So what about Andy Biggs and Gym Jordan?
After hearing the description of the prophylactic covered tent pole being kicked into DJT’s anus I think that he later would not have been able to rape people or fathers more children. The interior prostate and vein damage would have been too great.
Coukd be the reason dumpy doesn't want his medical records known.
🍊 💩 also raided the gastroenterologist's office and took all his files. The gastro then dies of mysterious circumstances. 🤔 Also, no one has a Gasto as a PC to my knowledge. He was also considered his PC? Hiding something?Sounds pretty legit to me!
Dr. Harold Bornstein, who served as Donald Trump's personal gastroenterologist for several decades, is known for his vocal criticism regarding the handling of Trump’s medical records. In 2017, shortly after Trump's election, Bornstein alleged that his office was "raided" by Trump's then-bodyguard Keith Schiller and a lawyer from the Trump Organization, who seized records without his consent.
Bornstein garnered significant media attention during Trump's 2016 presidential campaign for declaring Trump would be the "healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency." His glowing assessment was controversial, especially since he later revealed that Trump had dictated much of the letter himself. This admission indicated a complex relationship between the physician and his famous patient.
Dr. Harold Bornstein, former personal physician to Donald Trump, passed away on January 8, 2021, at the age of 73. His death sparked speculation, particularly due to the lack of details surrounding the cause and location of his passing, which were not disclosed in his obituary.
His many decades of adderal, benzos, and cocaine abuse (not to mention a diet of 100% fast food) are likely reasons (not that I don’t wish SR’s revenge was true!)
I’ve seen others mention similar, but I don’t hear this medical condition being mentioned as something common among addicts 🤔
Exactly. Addiction incontinence is temporary not permanent.
What matters here is keeping two things distinct: believing that severe abuse causes lifelong harm, and not filling evidentiary gaps with speculation about specific people or motives. Staying grounded in what can be documented — patterns of abuse, institutional silence, and how power protects itself — is what keeps this from sliding into claims that can’t be proven and ultimately weaken the accountability you’re rightly demanding.
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You did not do your due diligence even in the sense of having listened closely to the audio files. Here is a major note and correction: Sascha didn’t escape after shoving the tent stake up Trump’s ass. He and his father went home, then some weeks or months later the father told him that they had to go and pay penance, then Sascha was gang raped and beaten until nearly dead by groups of several men at a time. The last couple groups actually brutally beat the adoptive father because the father stepped in on Sascha’s behalf, knowing that he would die if he was beaten more, and was beaten (and possibly also raped but I don’t remember) in Sascha’s stead. I believe this was from the second audio file.
Second - Oklahoma was never in question. The farms were supposed to have been in Tennessee and possibly other locations in the south, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia. I may be wrong but I don’t remember not once in audio tapes a mention of Oklahoma.
You subtly claim Lisa Noelle Voldeng called you personally with this, but you didn’t name her or link us original Substack with the tapes. That’s suspicious and all of these together with you questioning his credibility at the end makes me doubly suspicious of you.
I also think it’s worth mentioning that Lisa Voldeng refers to Sascha as he/him pronouns, possibly because the pronouns he has listed online are some sort of tongue in cheek something, but I think more likely that this story has a lot of nonspecific groups of “theys” and it gets confusing when we talk about Sascha, who, for the purpose of this specific legal-stylized story, it is important to remember that he’s male (or the “boy” that is in question, the center of the piece), but use plural verbs and a pronoun that we’re also frequently using to refer to several other sets of characters within the narrative. I’m such a heavy trans rights advocate; this is the one and only instance I’ve ever seen where it’s probably more important to use the most clear pronoun for the public.
You're correcting Ellie's reporting but say, "possibly raped but I don't remember," "I believe this was from the second audio file," and "I may be wrong but I don't remember not once in audio tapes a mention of Oklahoma." Do you know the facts from the audio files or don't you? You yourself didn't review the transcripts to confirm the details you're disputing?
There are legitimate problems with Sascha's timeline and some of the details he has provided. You're seemingly upset because Ellie's reporting suggests that we MUST, if we're doing our actual due diligence, reserve judgement because the story is not as yet verifiable. Nowhere does she discredit Sascha and in fact, I think she's been very careful not the suggest that.
It serves no one, least of all Sascha, to move forward with rather incredible claims without some kind of corroboration. If proof exists, we move forward on the basis that Sascha is telling the truth, once it has been verified. Otherwise, how would you suggest justice can be served in this case? That prosecutors file charges against the men named in Sascha's testimony based on that testimony alone? That's it?
There is a case of an adjudicated rapist who was found guilty who caused his victim physical harm requiring surgery. He was released with a slap on the wrist due to privilege (the Jesse Mack Butler case). You don't think that Donald Trump can easily discredit Sascha and escape consequences once again? Because he can.
Victims like Virginia Giuffre and numerous other survivors who have come forward with more evidence than this have been largely unsuccessful in bringing consequences for their assailants. A sensational, unverified story helps no one.
I hope that Sascha is getting the help and protection he needs because I do believe he may be a legitimate abuse survivor. We just don't know if his testimony is truthful yet although it sounds like he believes it is. Saying "believe the survivors no matter what" doesn't serve justice. It's only helpful if it actually does and in this case, it doesn't yet.
Unless confirmation bias is the only thing you think is important here, your suspicions about Ellie's reporting, which isn't sensational in the least, on a viral story that many want to believe, aren't helping anyone and aren't helping other survivors either.
I completely agree Angie. Corroboration/Verification are not personal. It is part of a repeatable process to determine facts. I was surprised by seeing Oklahoma, as I heard Sascha say Tennessee,Alabama,Florida, but never mentioned Oklahoma.
This initial analysis 🧐 is thorough and unbiased. In all her reporting: As more information becomes available, Ellie has always pursued it and refined the analysis even more.
Ellie has experience with survivors of Epstein AND incredible research talent, that is what makes her perspective extraordinary - valuable and respected. Thank you 🙏🏻 Ellie, for being fearless in your presentation of what you found and also- what you didn’t! A true journalist, with integrity.
He CLEARLY SAID LAWTON OKLAHOMA AND EDMOND OKLAHOMA.
No need to shout. I may have missed that part, and that really is okay 🥴
There is proof, corroboration and evidence that didn’t make it into either Ellie’s article or the live.
1. PD in Oklahoma confirmed the police report Sascha filed. They have not been released yet.
2. Sascha’s first Sargent confirmed (last week) they were in the meeting with Sascha after the snuff film was discovered on the laptop. They did not see the film themselves. The Sargent confirmed that disciplinary measures were taken against the laptop owner. This conversation is documented
There were also some details Ellie included that were inconsistent with my listening. I’m going to give it a second listen in order to refresh my memory and notes.
Notably, that had to do with locations. Im curious if Ellie’s initial research was based on what Lise verbally said over the phone.
I’m also interested in facts being corroborated. Sascha, until their replies on threads have started being hidden, shared pieces of evidence they had and folks have been following up on those leads, specifically.
Noel Casler has written about Trump’s collection of snuff films, publicly and hasn’t been sued.
Beyond a doubt, our President is obsessed with causing harm to others.
Definitely a sadist IMHO.
Angie I didn’t announce that I was releasing my official findings about Sascha at 8pm. I’m discrediting Ellie’s findings though because of how glaringly and obviously different it is that what Voldeng published. I may not be able to confirm all of the inaccuracies off the top of my head, but you seem to have missed my broader point; she got the entire story wrong and anyone who listened to the originals will hear that. Go listen.
And to my broader points? What do you have to say. What do you have to gain from Sascha's story being true versus untrue? You have no reason to doubt anything Ellie has said. She doesn't do hit pieces. She works with survivors in the interest of exposing Trump and Epstein network of crimes. I don't get why you're so emotionally invested in that Sascha must be telling the truth. What's wrong with waiting until Ms. Voldeng publishes the material she SAYS she has? Why do you need the story to be 100% believed by everyone reading Ellie's report right here right now? Have you ever read any of her previous reporting? Yeah, I'm suspicious too. Of your motives. Not Ellie's.
The dates don’t line up. The people mentioned don’t lined up. The story has more holes than Swiss cheese. Add to that, he reported it right before the election and it screams DNC hoax. Sasha also has a PEDO TATTOO that he posted August 2022. It means “boy lover”. This guy is a pedophile himself.
And the snuff films that definitely exist and were made while he was a child? How do you explain that? A child that is traumatized and given drugs night get names and dates wrong. Video evidence doesn't lie
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Angie's comments above seems to be incomplete............
I am confident that a reference to Lisa Noelle Voldeng should have been included. This is not investigative journalism. Very disappointed
Shane I completely agree. I’m passionate about helping Sascha get his story into light, and this sort of piece damages the entire thing’s credibility. Infuriating.
Ok, so because the story that was TOLD TO Ellie doesn't match the story that is told in the audio files, you are suspicious of Ellie?? The people TELLING the story are giving completely conflicting/different accounts, but you're not suspicious of that??
This ridiculously illogical "gotcha" makes me extremely suspicious of you.
Be suspicious of me! I made no claim of releasing my own new information. She alluded to the woman telling her all this as having moved Sascha out of the country. That would mean Lisa Voldeng. And this conflicts with what Lisa Voldeng, who spoke directly to Sascha.
My point exactly! Do you not understand what told to means? If the stories being told to Ellie are conflicting with the stories being told in the audio files, that brings the storyteller under suspicion, NOT the person being told the story. I've been following Ellie for a couple months, and I'm positive she would not lie and say that she was told something that she wasn't told.
Perhaps it's just your ability to be logical that's under suspicion, but drawing the conclusion that Ellie is the one to be suspicious of is utterly irrational.
Let's simplify this so maybe you can understand..... you have a friend, let's call her Lisa, who tells you a story. Later, you overhear Lisa telling what seems to be the same story to another friend, let's call her Ellie, but what you overhear Lisa telling Ellie has details that are completely different, and contradict, the details she told you..... Lisa has given conflicting information, but Ellie is the one you're suspicious of? That makes zero sense. Not even zero, it makes negative sense.
Maybe we just assume that since Ellie is writing an opinion on Sascha’s story she would have listened to the story in his/their own words?
Do you NOT think the fact that the story she was told (by someone who reached out to her, claiming to have heard it directly from them) contradicts the story that was released elsewhere is relevant? She relayed what she was told, what she found in her attempts to corroborate what she was told, and then allows the reader to come to their own conclusions. If the story is contradicted elsewhere, that should (in the mind of anyone logical) be considered when drawing those conclusions.
"It’s okay to say something doesn’t feel right or doesn’t add up." I believe that this is probably alluding to the fact that what she was told doesn't match the audio files in every detail.... but instead of hitting people over the head with that, she is giving them the option to have that realization for themselves.... but that's an ACTUAL opinion (my own), unlike the vast majority of what she wrote (which, is, in reality a factual accounting of what she was told, and everything she found when she attempted to corroborate what she was told--which is very different than an "opinion").
Personally, I am curious if Ellie spoke to Sascha directly or only to Voldeng. I do notice in the tapes that Sascha makes a lot of effort to qualify certain statements when unsure and it’s not quite so clear that Voldeng makes the same effort. I’m suspicious of Voldeng also because she can’t even use the correct pronouns for Sascha. If Ellie spoke to Voldeng but not Sascha directly, it would certainly make a difference.
Matilda u would want to point out that in real journalism Ellie would have ALWAYS named Lisa Noelle Voldeng in this piece. The fact that she didn’t name her makes me believe that she in fact did not ever speak with Lisa, much less Sascha. She got key facts wrong - and ended on a note of “well I couldn’t find proof Trump or Epstein were involved so I just can’t say for sure.” This piece is worse than an op ed victim hit piece because it calls into question Sascha’s credibility without even understanding the claims he made.
Olivia, you are looking more and more like a troll. If you don’t agree with Ellie just don’t agree and move on with your life. You don’t have to insert yourself in every comment and attempt to drag Ellie through the mud and discredit her. You are looking more and more suspicious.
Olivia, what do you think......if the pronouns and as you mentioned, non-specific groups got me thinking about.... how children that were severely traumatized like Sascha speaks of what he has experienced there maybe multiple personalities that helped Sascha cope. Depending on who you are speaking with, Maybe these other personalities have different experiences 🤔
Just a thought
Yeah that’s definitely a possibility, and one reason why I think maybe Sascha really does use those pronouns irl. I can’t say, I don’t know Sascha. But I do get the impression that Sascha wants this story to be as clear as possible, to as many people as possible. I almost fear this piece is a hit job to try to make finding Sascha’s truth harder.
I listened to the tapes 2 times throughout. Olivia, what you quote is accurate. I was also impressed within the recordings the discussion that both had about the importance of evidence and what they were each working on. It appeared by their comments that they, too, wanted to be as accurate as possible to confirm Sacha's story.
Clearly you have not listened to any of the many, many livestreams that Ellie has been on, which make it blatantly obvious that she would NEVER, EVER write a "hit job" about a survivor. She has quit her job in order to pour through Epstein files ceaselessly, recruited her followers to contribute to that effort, and devoted herself to finding the truth FOR THE SURVIVORS.
Maybe take a look into who you're writing about, before you start a "hit job" in the comments of her article.
As for the possibility that Sascha has Dissociative Identity Disorder, that is the only thing you've said that actually makes sense. When repressed memories or memories held by an alter that doesn't typically "front" surface, it's very possible that they are not 100% accurate, no matter how hard the multiple (i.e. person who has multiple people within) or the person fronting is trying to be accurate. The potential exists for a conflating of current figures in the media with the perpetrators of the abuse, completely unintentionally and unconsciously on the part of the person fronting and trying to relay the information that they're getting from one of the others within.
I had quite a few hours of interaction online with a multiple, and he (the front I was speaking to was male) described himself in ways that turned out to be completely inaccurate during a later interaction. I'm sure he believed what he told me about himself, but then whoever came forward and took over the interaction with me acted in ways completely opposite what the one who usually fronted said.
Now, I don't have any doubt that the orange narcissist is capable of anything in terms of cruelty, but your attempt to smear Ellie is absolutely unconscionable, and exactly the opposite of what someone who cares about the truth should be doing.
Corina it’s like you’ve missed the onus of what I’ve said. Her reporting is Bad. She’s a Bad journalist. Maybe you’re 100% right - she would never want to write a hit piece, blah blah whatever. How the hell does it help a single survivor that she’s now put out a different story that people could hear and confuse them of what Sascha actually said? When I was raped I went through a similar situation - a nurse added her own nonsense into my rape kit statement- trying to be helpful- but it made me lose credibility when the court had multiple conflicting narratives. This is Much worse than that though because we’re not trying to convince one court, but the entire public. The public isn’t smart enough for conflicting narratives. So either your girl Ellie here is just bad at her job, or she’s intentionally muddying the waters. Calling it like I see it as a literal survivor who has gone through this.
Oliva, just a gentle reminder, Ellie states she is not a journalist. She has never claimed to be. Neither are we. Do not shoot the messenger. She only gave her opinion on what she dug into. She is a writer and worked as a transcriber....listen to her and how many times she has explained her background. Ellie, took the time to at least give it a go, while she is still organizing the Epstein files to help the victims that are already front and center.
My suggestion would be to get your own team of collaboraters and start working on it. Post the findings with your own team.
Don't you think that would be the kind way forward ✨️
Yes, I am autistic, and take things literally, so since you said things like you were "suspicious," and that you feared it was a "hit job," blah, blah, blah, that's what I believed you actually meant. It's pretty difficult for someone who takes things literally to catch the "onus" when your actual words don't give much indication of what you now claim it to be. See, I actually say what I mean and mean what I say, and it's unfathomable to me how allistics just can't seem to grasp that concept.
You attacked her integrity, which I have zero doubt of, so I defended.
But the reality is that you've missed the "onus" of what I said, which is that if there are conflicting narratives, it is due to her being GIVEN a narrative that conflicted with another, NOT creating one, as you seem to have convinced yourself.
Also, others in these comments have said that Sascha DID mention Oklahoma, which you insisted they had not, so you, yourself have now given a conflicting narrative, as well.
See, the thing is, Ellie isn't trying to "convince" anyone (which would be the job of a propagandist, not a journalist), she's trying to find the TRUTH. And she serves the survivors every day by looking for it.
If your assumption is correct, that it was Lisa who contacted Ellie, then how about assigning responsibility for the conflicting narratives FAIRLY, which would mean it would be Lisa's. "How the hell" is Lisa helping Sascha's struggle to be believed by contacting reporters and telling them a conflicting narrative???
Clearly, she really needs to be more conscious of the fact that her story needs to completely match Sascha's, otherwise she is doing much more harm than good (and exposing incredibly earnest, ethical, victim-supporting reporters of immense integrity to unfair attacks and discounting).
It's actually disgusting to me, that someone would use & disrespect Ellie by demonstrating such a massive lack of conscientiousness. The onus (no quotation marks this time, because I'm actually using the word correctly) of responsibility is on Lisa to actually put some thought into how her presentation of the story impacts believability.
It's also a very sad commentary on the state of "journalism" in the world today, that you would call someone a "Bad journalist" because she is objectively reporting what she was told, the steps she took in trying to corroborate what she was told, and what she found, as opposed to propagandizing, which is what you seem to believe "journalists" should do.
If I remember correctly, Sascha referred to something similar in a facebook post on their adoptive father’s page. They said something to the effect of “the different parts of me are talking to each other now”. I will see if I can find it.
Yes I saw that too. It was a post from Sascha to his adoptive father. Not long ago...
He mentioned Oklahoma but Enterprise, Alabama was a big point of reference and some surrounding states were mentioned as well.
I also commented on the audio tapes indicating the “parties” took place in the south. Alabama seems to be where the head pedo was annally impaled. Also, people involved in this level of criminal activity are not gonna leave a paper or physical trail. His adopted parents probably paid cash for almost everything.
Sascha is on Threads. Ellie used the correct pronouns.
You completely missed my entire point
Definitely definitely she is a grifter, and the comments here reflect decades of no child left behind and attacks on media literacy training. Makes sense why survivor stories are so often discredited too unfortunately.
I have commented before on this courageous story, so forgive if I'm being repetitive. I'm an 80 yo retired physician/psychiatrist and a CA survivor myself. I was the acting Medical Dir. for an inpatient treatment program in West Michigan devoted to treating SA AND SRA survivors, and interviewed/admitted many dozens of mostly adult women who had CPTSD and often dissociative disorders. I was shocked by the stories they told, which bore a similar scenario to Sascha's and the Epstein stories. I, also, heard about "farms" in MI and WI where wealthy men flew-in and partook in sexual abuse of children and adults. One very attractive woman I saw in my outpatient office kept coming to follow-up appointments and I would ask her why she kept going back to the "farm" when requested by management, she stated that she had had a child at the farm and that he was living there, was never given a birth certificate and legally did not exist. She kept returning for the sexual responsibilities because she was threatened that her son would be murdered if she did not comply. The general description of Sascha's treatment and even the murders seem real possibilities to me as they match-up with many details I heard over a number of years. And that doesn't even include the SRA stories, including child sacrifices in cemeteries on Halloween. This material was so traumatizing for me that I started drinking after a 13 yr. period of sobriety and eventually had to retire at 67 to devote myself to getting sober again in 2011. So, thank you for your fine journalism and my heart goes out to all SA and SRA survivors. This is a far bigger problem here in the US than the MSM has led us to believe. Have a blessed evening and be very grateful to your "Higher Power" if this story and Sascha's in unfamiliar to you.
Were the mandatory reporter laws in place at the time? If so, did you report this to law enforcement?
Bless you for being honest. PinkTweets doesn't hold back, but I'm glad because I am curious about your answer as well. Were you afraid ? Perhaps you self medicated out of guilt ? Glad you were able to get sober.
Like the old Indian adage: "Don't judge me until you've walked a mile in my moccasins".
Thank you for your extensive research. Your sensitivity to the survivors is greatly appreciated.
That care shows in the way the work stays grounded without losing compassion — it respects survivors while protecting the record from distortion. Staying engaged with that kind of rigor is one way this attention actually leads somewhere instead of fading.
THANK YOU! I have been wanting some verification of this story that has been circulating on Social Media !
I have posted all of the marriage/divorce records to my Threads. They indeed are available on genealogical websites. It was my understanding that Sascha claims all of those shocking abuses occurred not in Oklahoma, but on farms in Enterprise, Al and Georgia. Which can be verified as locations lived for William Kyle Riley. WKR also attended Troy State University from 1982-88 and earned a degree in Pilot Engineering (sic). Troy is located in Dothan, Al which is where the psych institute Sascha alleges they were sent.
Enterprise, Al also has a small municipal airport where private planes could easily circulate traffic. It is also near Jonesboro, Ga. Sascha obtained their SSN in Alabama in 1987-8. Which opens other questions.
One other issue: the names listed on Sascha’s adoption case files are those of the adoptive parents and the defendant is their bio father, Manuel Joseph Barros. I think investigating the relationship between Manuel and WKR may reveal something important. There are patterns I see which may reveal a complicit nature between the two. But that is strictly theoretical.
I enjoyed how you investigated the tent stakes. Remember, they could have been from another period (the ones in our house were from the 1960s and I suspect my father may still have them😎).
Keep on pressing🌈
Re. the relationship between WKR and the bio father: I remember seeing info stating they both were in the military, serving in Germany at the same time, and served together. That was the connection. Sascha was born in Germany. Can't remember where I saw this: might have been told by Sascha himself in a post. He did admit he found his biological mother and father, but never reached out to them.
That’s how Sascha claimed it to be, however I have found only one record that may be attributed to WKR’s service, and none for bio father Manuel Joseph Barros. There IS a Manuel Joseph BARRIOS who served in Korea, but it appears to be a different individual. Mr. Barros was born in 1951(location unknown) and Mr. Barrios was born in 1953 in NJ. To compound things, there is a different William Riley who was KIA in 1973, in Germany. We have to be meticulous when connecting to the records. I sense Sascha can verify that information!
This validates WKR's service in Army and 50 years as a pilot: https://www.atamomentsnotice.com/all-stories/bill-riley-receives-master-pilot-award?wtime=%7Bseek_to_second_number%7D&wtime=%7Bseek_to_second_number%7D&wtime=%7Bseek_to_second_number%7D&wtime=%7Bseek_to_second_number%7D
Judy- excellent find and thank you. My training forced me to seek if this was WKR or another WR. I was waiting to have a corroboration, which happened with the mention of “Air Evac”- as I do have that experience in my files for him. Strangely, there isn’t any mention of his studies at Troy State (in Dothan, Al- near Enterprise) from 1982-88. That’s a strange omission, imo.
thank you for this addition!
It’s a pleasure🌈
This kind of records-based work is exactly what keeps accountability grounded. Documenting locations, timelines, and public filings matters — and it’s important to separate what can be verified from what remains theoretical so survivors aren’t harmed by overreach.
I would absolutely hate for “an exception that disproves the rule” to discredit all the hard work people like you are doing. These people are masters at deception & discrediting operations. Thank you for diligently looking into everything instead of immediately jumping at a story. Remember if you're a target you're winning!!!
When you say these people are masters at deception, what people are you talking about?
The spin doctors and "fixers" that the powerful hire that would use anybody's story for their own ends.
Social sorcerers that nullify nuance by creating antithesis out of ambiguity. I hate them.
Excuse me, what did Ms Slop Artist do, exactly? She spent more time talking about herself. Everyone that is serious about this has red flagged Ellie's "findings". They didn't flag it because of survivors story, but because of the slop she delivered and your soaking up. Your still soaking up trash no matter how much you complement how pretty the trash is, it's still f'ing trash.
She even admits to sending it to the Epstein journalists to ok before she published it. Jesus F'ing Christ y'all are f'ing sheep. "Thank you mam, can I have another" gulp gulp gulp more trash please gulp gulp.
F'ing stupid! Y'all don't care what we survivors really think, u just want a cute little talking point wrapped in a bow🎀.
🎀Fuck most men! Fuck most politicians! Fuck all billionaires. Fuck Ice! Fuck Trump and his boy toy Stevie Nazi Miller. Fuck mainstream media for not covering this story and for covering for this class of sadists too. And Fuck unprincipled journalists like our unbeloved Ellie, who never met a journalists she didn't want to ass suck.! Well there you go, like my therapist always says, thanks for sharing, u can thank me later or not.🎀
That concern is well placed — discrediting one detail is often used as a shortcut to dismiss entire bodies of evidence. Careful verification isn’t a delay tactic here, it’s the safeguard that keeps the work intact against exactly those kinds of bad-faith attacks, and staying attentive together is how that effort holds.
Thank you for your work Ellie. Were you able to dig into any of the other men Sascha named?
What can be said responsibly is that names were approached with caution — where records or corroboration existed, they were examined; where they didn’t, they were not treated as established fact. That restraint is what protects survivors and the integrity of the work, and staying engaged with that standard is how the record stays credible.